[Rspamd-Users] Mails ending up in spam when sending to gmail address

[C. Bernard]

Hi Dave

On 2024-05-16 01:56, David Mehler wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm not sure if this is a Postfix or an Rspamd problem or a Gmail 
> problem, the first two I can do something about the third one not so 
> sure.
> 
> I'm running a personal E-mail server running on a VPS via a2hosting. 
> I'm using Cloudflare for my DNS. I've got Postfix 3.7.11 and Rspamd 
> 3.8.4 going. All appears well on my end, I've got dns MX, a PTR, SPF, 
> DKIM, and DMARC with what I thought was abiding by Google's new email 
> sending policy so I could get a message through.
> 
> On my side the email is accepted from here, and relayed, Rspamd does 
> sign it, and Postfix's last message in the log is a message sent 
> delivered, and removed from my queue. I check my test Gmail account, 
> and the message is indeed there, but Gmail has placed it in the spam 
> folder. I check the headers of said message, an SPF and DKIM both pass.
> 
> I am open to suggestions.
> 
> Thanks.
> Dave.

I see the exact same. My emails are "correct" in sense of dkim, dmarc, 
spf etc. but gmail puts them in spam or outlook.com as well. Some 
providers accept the email, but do not deliver them to the mbox: they 
discard them. wtf..

Either some "IP reputation" bullshit (some block an entire net block 
when only 1 IP sends spam or someone presses the "spam" button in the 
gui) or just monopoly. They do not want small providers and bully 
them... There is no real reason not to accept and deliver our emails to 
the mailboxes.

cheers
cmb
PS: I am on Hetzner and really happy